PghLondon
May 1, 06:06 PM
Dude, honestly, WTF are you going on about? You throw abstract generic words around like "software and computer engineering" that encompass literally the ENTIRE computer market and then tell people they don't know WTF they're talking about. Sorry, but I have to laugh. You demonstrate no knowledge about the subject and your reponses are pretty much, "I won't even bother to argue because you're a 5-year old". ROTFLMAO. Nothing says "clueless" to me quite like throwing insults and giving no valid arguments what-so-ever on a given topic. I've got two degrees in electronic engineering so you calling me a 5-year old is so utterly absurd, it's a joke.
What Apple does with iOS and OSX uses engineering, but there is no technology 'god' up there demanding that Apple head in the direction of closed systems, non-professional features, etc. There is no template that forces Apple to go in a given direction. More advanced engineering doesn't mean more closed. Learn the difference for goodness sake!
Apple is making these decisions based on business decisions with some 'control' factors thrown-in based on their CEO's personality. Engineering simply accommodates/implements the business decisions taken. It is not responsible for those decisions in any way. They could accommodate improvements with or without open/closed. Yes, it has 'something' to do with it, but it's completely irrelevant to the conversation here because implementing or creating a vision technologically is still not a business decision whether to do something or not (in this case whether to pursue real technological improvements to OSX or spend their time dumbing down the interface and/or making it more like the iPad/iPhone. Those are 'lateral' steps at best, not engineering breakthroughs.
Wow, at no time in this rant did you come close to a point. You actually argued both for and against my point at various times in your incoherent ramble.
What Apple does with iOS and OSX uses engineering, but there is no technology 'god' up there demanding that Apple head in the direction of closed systems, non-professional features, etc. There is no template that forces Apple to go in a given direction. More advanced engineering doesn't mean more closed. Learn the difference for goodness sake!
Apple is making these decisions based on business decisions with some 'control' factors thrown-in based on their CEO's personality. Engineering simply accommodates/implements the business decisions taken. It is not responsible for those decisions in any way. They could accommodate improvements with or without open/closed. Yes, it has 'something' to do with it, but it's completely irrelevant to the conversation here because implementing or creating a vision technologically is still not a business decision whether to do something or not (in this case whether to pursue real technological improvements to OSX or spend their time dumbing down the interface and/or making it more like the iPad/iPhone. Those are 'lateral' steps at best, not engineering breakthroughs.
Wow, at no time in this rant did you come close to a point. You actually argued both for and against my point at various times in your incoherent ramble.
dalvin200
Sep 12, 07:49 AM
i thought the event started at 7est
yeah, yesterday.. event is over my friend.. where u been?
u missed Steve launch off in his iSpaceShip to iMoon :D
yeah, yesterday.. event is over my friend.. where u been?
u missed Steve launch off in his iSpaceShip to iMoon :D
DaveTheGrey
Jan 5, 04:28 PM
guys don't forget also to quit your chat aps.
imagine:
u wait 3 hours for the stream and then...
an ichat message pops up...
"Hi buddy. I just went down to the apple store and now I'm writing to you with my new iPhone. Yeah.
Wanna come over and check it out?"
:D
Dave
imagine:
u wait 3 hours for the stream and then...
an ichat message pops up...
"Hi buddy. I just went down to the apple store and now I'm writing to you with my new iPhone. Yeah.
Wanna come over and check it out?"
:D
Dave
bushido
Apr 29, 02:25 PM
When it is publicly released.
been using Lion since DP1 as my main OS without problems
been using Lion since DP1 as my main OS without problems
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kindaobsessed
Mar 17, 01:57 AM
I would have never walked out of the store unless I paid for my purchase in full!
I wonder how you would have reacted it the "stoner" kid charge your card the entire puchase and pocketed the cash?
Is it really worth it? As others have said the kid most likely got fired and in the back of his friends and family's mind he may be seen as a thief.
That's great you returned the iPhone to the person who owned it, kudos to you for doing the right thing because it sounds like that is out of character.
I really hope that you will really dig down in your soul and do the right thing.
All you have to do is go back to the store and say you noticed the money never came out of your bank account.
I wonder how you would have reacted it the "stoner" kid charge your card the entire puchase and pocketed the cash?
Is it really worth it? As others have said the kid most likely got fired and in the back of his friends and family's mind he may be seen as a thief.
That's great you returned the iPhone to the person who owned it, kudos to you for doing the right thing because it sounds like that is out of character.
I really hope that you will really dig down in your soul and do the right thing.
All you have to do is go back to the store and say you noticed the money never came out of your bank account.
theBB
Jan 14, 08:48 PM
Now, Gizmodo just posted another editorial. They are not just refusing to apologize, they are actually proud. Supposedly this is a an act of civil disobedience, a sign of their independence. Not only are they being immature jerks, but exhibit this self righteous attitude. It is just a prank, (actually it is not even a creative one) so it is not that big of a deal, but their new editorial makes them seem even more immature. I wonder if somebody is going to play pranks on them to show some independence of his own.
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iGary
Sep 26, 04:56 PM
After all of the comments about how great Aperture ran, and considering how crappy it was running on mine, I decided to take into the Apple Store.
The video card is defective and they are replacing it. No wonder my experience with the program stunk.
:)
The video card is defective and they are replacing it. No wonder my experience with the program stunk.
:)
chrismacguy
Apr 25, 04:20 PM
Yes, they did. They encouraged it and called no one. This went on for a very long time too. Some of you need to go watch the video before you comment. I fixed the link. You will not believe what you see.
Dear McDonalds: Boom. You just lost a whole lot of customers. Also, you should fire those idiots you have working there and refuse to provide them a reference. They don't deserve anything more after that display of sheer inhumaneness. Even on a human level standing around laughing is wrong. Whatever "company policy" is - not even calling the cops is ridiculous, heinous and shows signs of a deep inability to be human.
Dear McDonalds: Boom. You just lost a whole lot of customers. Also, you should fire those idiots you have working there and refuse to provide them a reference. They don't deserve anything more after that display of sheer inhumaneness. Even on a human level standing around laughing is wrong. Whatever "company policy" is - not even calling the cops is ridiculous, heinous and shows signs of a deep inability to be human.
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mcrain
Apr 26, 10:29 AM
Yes, I do. She's female. No it doesn't matter, even if she was pre-op she wouldn't nor would any transsexual pee standing up in a female public restroom. I certainly never did before I had surgery. For what it's worth I used female loos for four years before I went under the knife, not one single incident, not one single person expressed any kind of discomfort, not one single eyelid batted.
This obsession with the loos is ridiculous. They're just toilets. We have to piss just like anyone else, is it too much to ask to do it with dignity without undue hassle?
Thanks, I honestly did not know the answer to that question, and I would guess that others did not know as well. I hope my asking did not offend you.
This obsession with the loos is ridiculous. They're just toilets. We have to piss just like anyone else, is it too much to ask to do it with dignity without undue hassle?
Thanks, I honestly did not know the answer to that question, and I would guess that others did not know as well. I hope my asking did not offend you.
NewSc2
Oct 3, 06:08 PM
hi,
The people I have spoken to who use PC's are not nerds or power users, however, they do have monitors that work perfectly fine and want to use them. Why would someone purchase a 20" iMac when they already have sitting on their desk a 12 month old 19" LCD? They may not all need expandability (or really understand what that means) but they are of the mind set that they must have the option. These people are simply not considering Apple computers because of the lack of an upgradeable computer that is under $1500 (the mini is not easily upgradeable unless you happen to be one of those nerds you are refering to). The gap between the mini and the Mac Pro is enormous in both power and price yet there is nothing in the middle price/power range. Simply dismissing this catagory of people will not convince them to buy an iMac. Further, saying the operating system will convince them to switch is a moot point if they never buy the computer in the first place.
My friends, family, and co-workers are all interested in this "OS X thing" but get turned off at the price of the Pro, the lack of power of the mini, and the all in one of the iMac. This is what I am seeing, and Apple is losing sales because of it.
s.
The Mini is pretty powerful. Sorry to discount your argument, but I think that it's more than enough for people out there that aren't power users/computer nerds. Heck, my dad runs engineering software all day long on his Pentium 3 733mhz, 256MB RAM computer and doesn't feel the need to upgrade.
It being in a small case is even better for the common user. Maybe to us, a small case seems like a bad computer, but the specs are similar to MacBook specs, which seems like enough for almost all users out there.
The people I have spoken to who use PC's are not nerds or power users, however, they do have monitors that work perfectly fine and want to use them. Why would someone purchase a 20" iMac when they already have sitting on their desk a 12 month old 19" LCD? They may not all need expandability (or really understand what that means) but they are of the mind set that they must have the option. These people are simply not considering Apple computers because of the lack of an upgradeable computer that is under $1500 (the mini is not easily upgradeable unless you happen to be one of those nerds you are refering to). The gap between the mini and the Mac Pro is enormous in both power and price yet there is nothing in the middle price/power range. Simply dismissing this catagory of people will not convince them to buy an iMac. Further, saying the operating system will convince them to switch is a moot point if they never buy the computer in the first place.
My friends, family, and co-workers are all interested in this "OS X thing" but get turned off at the price of the Pro, the lack of power of the mini, and the all in one of the iMac. This is what I am seeing, and Apple is losing sales because of it.
s.
The Mini is pretty powerful. Sorry to discount your argument, but I think that it's more than enough for people out there that aren't power users/computer nerds. Heck, my dad runs engineering software all day long on his Pentium 3 733mhz, 256MB RAM computer and doesn't feel the need to upgrade.
It being in a small case is even better for the common user. Maybe to us, a small case seems like a bad computer, but the specs are similar to MacBook specs, which seems like enough for almost all users out there.
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dethmaShine
Apr 9, 09:00 AM
So far Ive seen
Smartscreen for File Checking (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-to-use-smartscreen-for-file-checking)
Auto Superbar Colourization (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-aero-auto-colourization)
Metro IE9 for Tablet Versions (http://www.neowin.net/news/ie-to-have-a-metro-feel-in-windows-8)
Built-in Metro Style PDF Reader (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-to-have-metro-style-pdf-reader)
Possible Office Ribbon interface for Windows Explorer (http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-testing-ribbon-ui-in-windows-8)
New Style Lock-Screen (http://www.neowin.net/news/winodws-8-login-sceen-revealed)
Metro Tablet UI will be "Immersive" (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-tablet-metro-ui-will-be-immersive-images-surface)
Will Allow Software Acceleration (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-to-allow-software-acceleration-makes-aero-ubiquitous)
Metro Theme (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-metro-theme-new-wallpaper-and-other-elements-leak)
History Vault (Easy Interface on Backup and Shadow Copying) (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-to-feature-history-vault-time-machine-competitor)
System Reset (Restore to Factory Defaults in minutes) (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-039system-reset039-image-leaks)
Aero 'Lite' Theme (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-039aero-lite039-button-elements-revealed)
Better Language Support from the Box (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-language-explorer-screen-shot-leaks)
Updated Superbar (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-taskbar-update-leaks-out-in-another-image)
Windows Live ID Login (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-live-id-login-image-leaks-and-other-features-surface)
Multiple Desktops/Flip & Smart Sticky Notes (http://www.neowin.net/news/concept-images-reveal-possible-features-in-windows-8)
Possible WP7-Style Smart Tiles for Win8 Tablet (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-tablet-may-feature-live-tiles-similar-to-wp7)
Still no features compared to Mac OS.
Also, those things that you mentioned looked hideous instead of that new lock screen which looks good.
Smartscreen for File Checking (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-to-use-smartscreen-for-file-checking)
Auto Superbar Colourization (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-aero-auto-colourization)
Metro IE9 for Tablet Versions (http://www.neowin.net/news/ie-to-have-a-metro-feel-in-windows-8)
Built-in Metro Style PDF Reader (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-to-have-metro-style-pdf-reader)
Possible Office Ribbon interface for Windows Explorer (http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-testing-ribbon-ui-in-windows-8)
New Style Lock-Screen (http://www.neowin.net/news/winodws-8-login-sceen-revealed)
Metro Tablet UI will be "Immersive" (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-tablet-metro-ui-will-be-immersive-images-surface)
Will Allow Software Acceleration (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-to-allow-software-acceleration-makes-aero-ubiquitous)
Metro Theme (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-metro-theme-new-wallpaper-and-other-elements-leak)
History Vault (Easy Interface on Backup and Shadow Copying) (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-to-feature-history-vault-time-machine-competitor)
System Reset (Restore to Factory Defaults in minutes) (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-039system-reset039-image-leaks)
Aero 'Lite' Theme (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-039aero-lite039-button-elements-revealed)
Better Language Support from the Box (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-language-explorer-screen-shot-leaks)
Updated Superbar (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-taskbar-update-leaks-out-in-another-image)
Windows Live ID Login (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-live-id-login-image-leaks-and-other-features-surface)
Multiple Desktops/Flip & Smart Sticky Notes (http://www.neowin.net/news/concept-images-reveal-possible-features-in-windows-8)
Possible WP7-Style Smart Tiles for Win8 Tablet (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-tablet-may-feature-live-tiles-similar-to-wp7)
Still no features compared to Mac OS.
Also, those things that you mentioned looked hideous instead of that new lock screen which looks good.
mrsir2009
Apr 23, 05:34 PM
Microsoft is planning to release an App Store for Windows.
Oh yay! Another app-store rip off years after the OSX one has debuted.
Oh yay! Another app-store rip off years after the OSX one has debuted.
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AhmedFaisal
Mar 4, 10:12 PM
Ironic that a western country with one of the highest levels of unionization, including public sector unions, and all the evil evil socialized stuff such as pensions, healthcare etc. has the highest growth rate, best unemployment rate and most balanced budget. Germany.
Kinda defeats your argument, fivepoint. Also, considering the level of unionization, Germany has in percentage points double the industrial production jobs that the US does. And all these companies are world leaders in their segments.
Americans are diluded if they think ultracon vulture capitalism will save them, it is exactly what got them into this mess to begin with.
Cheers,
Ahmed
Kinda defeats your argument, fivepoint. Also, considering the level of unionization, Germany has in percentage points double the industrial production jobs that the US does. And all these companies are world leaders in their segments.
Americans are diluded if they think ultracon vulture capitalism will save them, it is exactly what got them into this mess to begin with.
Cheers,
Ahmed
jonnysods
Sep 30, 07:42 AM
Very modest house for a guy of his wealth. Very impressive.
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Cleverboy
Jan 14, 08:23 PM
Hey bad news is better than no news. I'd bet Gizmodo will get a few more hits out of this and maybe ces will attract some more people to see what will happen next year. It may be in the end one of the better things to have happened to this event. (Just a different way of looking at it)Wow. No. This (or anything like it) isn't something to "look forward" to next year. This was just STUPID. Yes, Gizmodo got extra traffic out of it... its what they do. I thought Leo Leporte was unreasonable for his dislike of Gizmodo, but they are now OFF my Google homepage and out of my bookmarks, and have earned a measure of disrepect for many of their readers. If they have anything more to say, I will likely never hear of it. Hopefully Engadget and other websites can make sure I get the news I would have heard from Gizmodo. I'll miss Jesus' artwork, but oh well. Plenty of other talented people out there.
~ CB
~ CB
Zwhaler
Jan 5, 03:16 PM
Awesome idea, this will be a cool way to discover new products! Ahh...
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rkahl
Mar 17, 01:14 PM
You should call and thank your parent's for raising such a LOSER!
bobber205
May 5, 04:15 PM
That would be neat, rat- if any of the examples you gave were health hazards. They aren't. Guns can be. And your health is your doctor's business. My doctor asks me about all kinds of things I do and activities I engage in to give me advice regarding them. Health is your doctor's business.
Come to Chicago and see just what "fewer guns" has done for us. We've had a gun ban in place for a very long time- not working out so well.
You're better than this Lee.
Just because it hasn't worked in Chicago doesn't mean it won't work period. Other countries ban guns just fine. It's about enforcement.
Come to Chicago and see just what "fewer guns" has done for us. We've had a gun ban in place for a very long time- not working out so well.
You're better than this Lee.
Just because it hasn't worked in Chicago doesn't mean it won't work period. Other countries ban guns just fine. It's about enforcement.
TBDNET
Oct 6, 11:46 AM
First, Apple must build an iPhone that will work on Verizon's CDMA network (iPhone is GSM & HPDA), OR Verizon must upgrade their network to handle GSM/HDMA. I don't thing either will ever happen.
Isn't Verizon's 4G network going to be GSM?
on another note if it is wouldn't their coverage also be spotty?
Isn't Verizon's 4G network going to be GSM?
on another note if it is wouldn't their coverage also be spotty?
iangreen
Apr 29, 02:34 PM
Yeah, same reaction here.
when you start using Safari in Lion like you can in iPad (zooming in on paragraphs) and the new gestures (like back/forward), and having text autocorrected like on iOS, you'll never be able to go back
when you start using Safari in Lion like you can in iPad (zooming in on paragraphs) and the new gestures (like back/forward), and having text autocorrected like on iOS, you'll never be able to go back
LethalWolfe
Nov 11, 02:54 PM
anyone read my post at the top of the page.
anyone else having problems joining team death with a party of 2 or more?
anyone else having problems joining team death with a party of 2 or more?
MagnusVonMagnum
Apr 29, 10:34 PM
There's a huge difference between merging in concepts of the UI, user-friendly software distribution, media access and what you describe.
It is very unlikely that Apple's engineering and marketing would destroy what they've worked to build for so long, IMHO. How are you so certain that they'll be bringing all the bad stuff along with the good stuff? Seriously - do you really think that Apple's talent are as utterly foolish that you make them out to be?
Is there? They're already controlling what can and cannot be sold on the iOS platform (and it is an entire platform now with full-fledged computers in the form of the iPad). They've proven themselves beyond contempt by insisting that in-app subscriptions be the same or lower on the App store than direct, despite the fact that they demand 1/3 of all the selling price. They've added an 'App' store for OSX proper and have the same 30% "grab" for everything on there. They're advertising and bragging about bringing iOS features back to OSX. I'm just doing simple math here. You can make 1+1 = 1 if you say it's a bigger one, but in my world, 2 is still the more likely answer.
And you are the ones using the words "foolish". I think it's quite possibly a business-savvy solution to ensuring profits stay high into the future. What you or I may want in OSX is irrelevant to both Apple and Steve Jobs. Steve has essentially said that consumers don't know what's best for them and that it takes a visionary to move forward. We know Steve's 'vision' is smaller/thinner/more mobile at almost any cost. So I'm not saying it will happen like that, but that it's looking more likely every day. Only time will tell for sure. But I know if it does happen, I'll no longer have an interest in OSX. I don't want Apple deciding for me what I can or cannot buy or watching developers get 1/3 their gross taken from them (same % as a typical injury lawyer BTW. You don't get paid until they get paid FIRST and your bills 2nd and you last; in this case it would be taxes instead of bills). You can think it's good/fair/right. I don't agree and I don't want Apple telling me I have to use Safari because they don't want Firefox or Chrome competing with them.
No, it'll happen whether we like it or not. Because the industry is going to the iPad like dumbed down devices for every day use, and in 10-15 years those devices will be fast enough for all of us to do almost everything on them.
I don't know about that. There will always be a market for faster/more powerful (i.e. most people may drive a Ford Focus or Chevy Impala or Toyota Corrola and hybrids may capture larger and larger market penetration in the future, but that doesn't mean there isn't a market for the WRX, Mustang, Corvette, etc. even if it shrinks over time) and so even if Apple AND Microsoft bail out of traditional computing, that just means someone else will likely take over. They can't make Linux go away, for example. And if people didn't BUY it, the lines would stop. Newton didn't exactly go over so well the first time around....
It is very unlikely that Apple's engineering and marketing would destroy what they've worked to build for so long, IMHO. How are you so certain that they'll be bringing all the bad stuff along with the good stuff? Seriously - do you really think that Apple's talent are as utterly foolish that you make them out to be?
Is there? They're already controlling what can and cannot be sold on the iOS platform (and it is an entire platform now with full-fledged computers in the form of the iPad). They've proven themselves beyond contempt by insisting that in-app subscriptions be the same or lower on the App store than direct, despite the fact that they demand 1/3 of all the selling price. They've added an 'App' store for OSX proper and have the same 30% "grab" for everything on there. They're advertising and bragging about bringing iOS features back to OSX. I'm just doing simple math here. You can make 1+1 = 1 if you say it's a bigger one, but in my world, 2 is still the more likely answer.
And you are the ones using the words "foolish". I think it's quite possibly a business-savvy solution to ensuring profits stay high into the future. What you or I may want in OSX is irrelevant to both Apple and Steve Jobs. Steve has essentially said that consumers don't know what's best for them and that it takes a visionary to move forward. We know Steve's 'vision' is smaller/thinner/more mobile at almost any cost. So I'm not saying it will happen like that, but that it's looking more likely every day. Only time will tell for sure. But I know if it does happen, I'll no longer have an interest in OSX. I don't want Apple deciding for me what I can or cannot buy or watching developers get 1/3 their gross taken from them (same % as a typical injury lawyer BTW. You don't get paid until they get paid FIRST and your bills 2nd and you last; in this case it would be taxes instead of bills). You can think it's good/fair/right. I don't agree and I don't want Apple telling me I have to use Safari because they don't want Firefox or Chrome competing with them.
No, it'll happen whether we like it or not. Because the industry is going to the iPad like dumbed down devices for every day use, and in 10-15 years those devices will be fast enough for all of us to do almost everything on them.
I don't know about that. There will always be a market for faster/more powerful (i.e. most people may drive a Ford Focus or Chevy Impala or Toyota Corrola and hybrids may capture larger and larger market penetration in the future, but that doesn't mean there isn't a market for the WRX, Mustang, Corvette, etc. even if it shrinks over time) and so even if Apple AND Microsoft bail out of traditional computing, that just means someone else will likely take over. They can't make Linux go away, for example. And if people didn't BUY it, the lines would stop. Newton didn't exactly go over so well the first time around....
The Phazer
May 3, 03:02 PM
Users can of course work around carrier restrictions with methods known as "sideloading" that allow users to install apps through unapproved sources, but most casual users are undoubtedly sticking to mainstream, authorized marketplaces such as the Android Market for their needs.
Hmm, I find this highly doubtful to be honest. Aside from anyone who's bought a locked down Android phone that doesn't allow sideloading, I would expect that nearly everyone uses it.
Phazer
Hmm, I find this highly doubtful to be honest. Aside from anyone who's bought a locked down Android phone that doesn't allow sideloading, I would expect that nearly everyone uses it.
Phazer
funkypepper
May 1, 05:56 AM
Can anyone confirm is there a Turkish localization in this build?
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